Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Pond build area.
User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 11th, 2016, 11:33 am

This pond is going to be a monolithic concrete pour as well but it will be formed a little bit differently. The pond dimensions are roughly 14' x 28' but, on the middle of the front long edge of the pond, there is going to be a radius viewing edge that takes you into the pond a little bit. Because of this I will have to make my wooden forms out of 2 x 4's and plywood in order to get the radius. More top follow soon.
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 11th, 2016, 11:36 am

This shows an overview of the pond location, along with a "conceptual" look of an initial plan for the pond in the .pdf file.
IMG_3733.jpg
IMG_3733.jpg (190.66 KiB) Viewed 25390 times
Attachments
IMG_3731.jpg
IMG_3731.jpg (169.57 KiB) Viewed 25390 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 11th, 2016, 11:48 am

Some prep work needed to get done before the cavalry arrives-cement and partial deck removal. The white posts are the approximate location of the pond, and the concrete was cut back to allow for about 6 inches between the pond and the concrete patio. A drain system will be placed in this area to prevent ponding on the concrete patio. Depending on Russ' input, the actual size of the pond may shrink by a foot or so to allow more room for filtration and possibly to allow the two corner posts to remain to support a shade over part of the pond.

The concrete patio installation was done poorly. The rebar was sparse, and was either simply positioned between the concrete and the sand or in the bottom inch of the concrete, making removal easier.

One challenge for this pond build is the very limited space and access. The large green space outside the fence is a gas line easement. So, in addition to getting a drainage permit from the city, we have to coordinate with the gas company to lay steel plates over the pipes to allow for the digger to access the site from the rear since there is no suitable access at the side of the yard. This also will require removing two panels of the fence and one post at the rear of the site. Depending upon how the backhoe operator feels, additional fencing may need to be removed at the side of the yard, but hopefully he can dig with the backhoe in the pond footprint.

Of course, the irrigation system, lighting system, and gas line for the fire pit also go right through the dig area. Those will be re-routed after the installation of the pond.
Attachments
20160705_075613.jpg
20160705_075613.jpg (198.19 KiB) Viewed 25388 times
20160705_075520.jpg
20160705_075520.jpg (205.66 KiB) Viewed 25388 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

sschult
Posts: 90
Joined: December 12th, 2016, 3:13 am
Location: Orlando Fl

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby sschult » December 12th, 2016, 4:42 am

Nice to see it from the beginning.
At some point common sense must prevail.

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:23 pm

I decided to bring some things I need for this build with me as I knew I would not find then outside of California. I am doing another monolithic pour and need form ties, Simpson T-8's, to hold the upper part of the forms together. TSA found them in one of my suitcases, with some power tools, and decided they needed to unpack them and have a look. I don't have a problem with it except that it is such a waste of taxpayer money. You can see they put their tape on the bag full of the T-8's to let me know they looked at them.
Attachments
SSC_0021_21Koi.jpg
SSC_0021_21Koi.jpg (172.79 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:24 pm

The T-8's come with metal wedges that hold them in the forms. One wedge on either side. Tis small bag of wedges weighs about twice as much as the larger bag go T-8's.
Attachments
SSC_0022_22Koi.jpg
SSC_0022_22Koi.jpg (171.93 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:27 pm

This morning we spent some time doing layout and deciding the final dimensions of the pond. The excavation starts on Monday so I need to get several sides of the outer forms up. Three string lines have been run to show where these will go. You can see that there is a fire pit and on that side of the pond the wall will follow the radius of the fir pit.
Attachments
SSC_0013_13Koi.jpg
SSC_0013_13Koi.jpg (171.7 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0014_14Koi.jpg
SSC_0014_14Koi.jpg (169.99 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0015_15Koi.jpg
SSC_0015_15Koi.jpg (170.03 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:29 pm

Once the layout was complete, and the final dimensions of the pond were determined, we could start working on getting the forms built. I am using a different type of form for this build as I can not use 2 x 12's for the radius wall. I am using plywood on a wood frame for the forms. It takes time to put these forms together but, the good thing is, many of them can be prebuilt. You can see some of the finished forms stacked up and some stacks of cut plywood and 2 x 4's ready for the next set of forms. I am hoping to be able to start on some of the radius forms tomorrow but it may be Sunday that I get to those.
Attachments
SSC_0016_16Koi.jpg
SSC_0016_16Koi.jpg (174.87 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0017_17Koi.jpg
SSC_0017_17Koi.jpg (170.71 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0018_18Koi.jpg
SSC_0018_18Koi.jpg (174.25 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0019_19Koi.jpg
SSC_0019_19Koi.jpg (171.85 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0020_20Koi.jpg
SSC_0020_20Koi.jpg (165.15 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:30 pm

Anatomy of a Radius Wall
Today we spent the day working on the pond. This pond is going to be a monolithic pour and, on the front end, there is going to be a wall that has a 4' 6" radius. This is to allow the pond to be as wide as possible in the space without getting rid of the fire pit. It adds a very nice feature to the pond. Since I can not bend 2 x 12's, for the round wall, I have to employ a different building technique for the radius wall. It starts with cutting pieces of plywood for the top and bottom plates. Here are the pieces for the bottom plate. For a stronger plate I do two layers of 3/4" CDX and I over lap the seams.
Attachments
SSC_0042_20Koi.jpg
SSC_0042_20Koi.jpg (175.88 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN

User avatar
Russell Peters
Site Admin
Posts: 4332
Joined: December 11th, 2016, 9:49 am
Contact:

Re: Indianapolis IN, Pond Build with a Blue Eco RDF

Postby Russell Peters » December 12th, 2016, 4:32 pm

Once I put them together and square off the ends I have one of my two plates.
Attachments
SSC_0043_21Koi.jpg
SSC_0043_21Koi.jpg (174.12 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
SSC_0044_22Koi.jpg
SSC_0044_22Koi.jpg (171.81 KiB) Viewed 25369 times
Dealer & US Agent for INC
www.pskoi.com
https://www.facebook.com/russell.peters.984
MATSUNOSUKE GIN


Return to “Pond Construction and Filtration”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest