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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:43 am

First, with any Koi you pick, it should start with quality. The items listed for Kohaku Tosai skin and beni quality will apply here. I think the most important thing to remember about Showa is that it is a black based fish. When they are fry only the black ones are saved in the first cull. Therefore, just because a Showa doesn't have Sumi, in what would be considered the right areas as Tosai, doesn't mean that it won't appear later. Tosai are babies, in the big picture, and, especially with Showa, it will take years for all of their qualities to develop. This is why patience, and knowledge, is especially important with Showa Tosai.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:44 am

Motoguru - Black at the Base of the Pectoral Fins


There is a lot of information out there about Motoguru and most of it is highly innacurate, especially when it comes to picking young Showa. Remember, Showa are a black based fish and it takes time for Sumi to develop. In fact the longer it takes the better.

Motoguru is not a good point to use when selecting Tosai Showa. If you select Showa by using this as a determining factor you will pass over a lot of good Koi. Motoguru is one way of determinig the quality of Sumi but you should not use it in selecting Showa Tosai. Showa Tosai with clear pectoral fins will produce a Showa that will look good for many years. This goes with the idea that, the longer Sumi takes to develop, the better it will look. Tosai with Motoguru that is already developed tends to grow more Sumi and will not look as nice.
Good quality Showa can take 8 -10 years to develop and there is an indicator for Motoguru developing if it is not already there. If there is Sumi in the cheek plate it will develop, without a doubt.

There are other indicators for how Sumi will devlop on a Showa Tosai. I think the one that is easiest for most is what we see in "sunken Sumi". This is Sumi that lies just below the skin. The best areas of "sunken Sumi" are the areas that group together in larger plates. This does not mean Sumi, that you don't see, won't come up but, if you are looking for a sure thing make sure you stay away from "sunken Sumi" that are in small areas on the body. Again, this is a subjective thing, some may enjoy a Showa with less Sumi.

If there are areas where there is no Sumi on the body but you see it in the dorsal area it will grow and come down the body from that point.

If there is no Sumi on the face of a Showa but there is Sumi inside the mouth, Sumi will appear on the face.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:44 am

Sumi Quality


There are two basic types of Sumi, bluish and grayish Sumi. Of the two the blue based Sumi is the best and it is called Aozumi. It has a deep black color wit a bluish luster to it. The grayish Sumi does not have the same luster as Aozumi.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:45 am

Showa Pattern


What you here a lot is that there has to be a balance Kohaku pattern, 3 colors on the face and a balance of all 3 colors in each section of the body. This is where it makes no sense to me. A Showa is not a Kohaku so why would it need to have a Kohaku pattern? Showa are a 3 color fish and the balance really should come from a balance of all 3 colors. Don't get me wrong, there are many types of Showa and with that, a large variety of patterns and you should always go with what you prefer. I am posting my observations, and perceptions, of how I feel Showa should be viewed.

Here is a picture of the Grand Champion from the All Japan Koi Show in 2007. This is a good example of how the balance can come from all 3 colors as this Showa does not have a balanced Kohaku pattern.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:46 am

Take a look at the GC Showa without any Sumi. Would any of you have picked this Showa because of the Kohaku pattern? I know this is a terrible reproduction but it will give you an idea.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:47 am

Here are a couple of other Showa, that were at the All Japan Koi Show, and you can see they are quite different as well. They tend to fall more in line with some of the "rules of thumb" as well. The point I want to make is that you shouldn't limit your options with Showa. Imagine though, how difficult it would be, to predict these Showa at Tosai.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:51 am

Motoguru - Part Deux

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about Motoguru and what it's importance is in Showa. It should not be something that keeps you from buying a nice Showa if it isn't fully developed as it should develop with the Showa and ideally finish when the Showa does.
If you find a Showa that has a lot of Sumi in the pectoral fins or, even if the fins look like they are totally black, the outcome could still be good. the indicator for this is the leading ray of the pectoral fin. If the leading ray of the pectoral fin is white and the rest is all black, or mostly black, the Sumi will pull back in time and devleop nice Motoguru. Here are a couple of pictures of a Showa that shows this development.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:53 am

Sanke Tosai

Sanke Sumi

Unlike Showa's "sunken Sumi" on Sanke it is very unpredictable. Not all of the "sunken Sumi" on Sanke will come up and be clear. One of the most important spots for Sumi on Sanke is the shoulder. Tsubo is "crtical spot" and there are 3 locations on Sanke that Tsubo Sumi is important. The shoulder, back and tail.
Good Sumi for sanke is called Urushi-zumi. It is different than Aozumi on Showa, although Atarashi Sumi on Matsunosuke Showa is very, very close, as it is a dense true black Sumi.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:54 am

Sanke Beni


Hi on Sanke should be about the same as that of Kohaku in all areas. In Kohaku Madoaki, a hole in the Beni, is undesirable as there is no hpe of it filling in. On a Sanke there is a possibility for a Madoaki to be acceptable. Sometimes you will find a Madoaki with "sunken Sumi" in it. This is still a gamble as there is no guarantee the Sumi will emerge but, if it did, it would add a nice detail.
Sanke should have Beni that starts on it face.
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Re: Hints for Picking Tosai Gosanke

Postby Russell Peters » December 25th, 2016, 10:56 am

Sanke Pattern

Sanke, like Showa, are a 3 color Koi but sanke should present themselves in a different manner than Showa. In a sense Sanke are more delicate, or graceful, in how they present themselves. This does not mean that they can not have bold, large Beni patterns. I think what is always most important is the placement of Sumi. Something to watch for in Sanke is Sumi in the fins. Sumi stripes in the pectoral fins, Tejima, is very striking and adds to the presentation of Sanke. A lot of Sumi in the tail fin, cuadal fin, is not good as it is an indicator that there will be a lot of stray Sumi spots, Jari Sumi, thus making the Sanke very messy and undesirable.
Take a look at the Sanke in this tub and you will see the Sumi in the tail and how much excess Sumi there is on the bodies.
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